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PocketHercules99 (December 31, 1969 at 4:59 pm)
The most fucked up thing that blows my mind is that our human brains cant even comprehend and fully explore space
we think were so intelligent but we could be something so small in a very bigger picture
PheonixMasters (December 31, 1969 at 4:59 pm)
space program because it could find cures for things here on earth. Or bring the world together in some ways like new life. A lot of people's views would change if we did meet aliens just saying. All that space and we are the only life seems unlikely. Be it Bacteria,Vegetation,and or Humanoid
zionofwestern (December 31, 1969 at 4:59 pm)
If you were given one billion dollars to either fund a space progam to fly back to the moon or donate to cancer charities, which would you pick and why?
zionofwestern (December 31, 1969 at 4:59 pm)
@ RationalEmotive
I understand your point about "world leaders" as the "trouble makers" and not being able to govern or utilize their power for needs of everyone. Don't use them as a scapegoat and say "it's too difficult" to help people in need. Mother t also said, "God doesn't require us to succeed; he only requires that you try." Giving up so easy on people? I never thought that an astronomer would have the pessimistic attitude towards people. Let me ask you one question:
RationalEmotive (December 31, 1969 at 4:59 pm)
We astronomers are not the problem. We may not be the most altruistic people but if one day intellectuals were pressured and paid by politicians and economic leaders to use our intelligence not to make money but to help solve global problems I am fairly sure very few would decline the opportunity to work on that.
You need to distinguish between trouble-makers and bystanders which can only help to a certain extent.
RationalEmotive (December 31, 1969 at 4:59 pm)
I am not putting stones in your way to help and keep you from fulfilling your mission. I am merely spending the night out and thinking about the improbability of life and helping your mission with small grands that I can afford.
So I really decline your responsibility for every one, but a more adapted responsibility corresponding to what power you have. World leaders not only do not lack the responsibility they are given but even create new problems for us to solve which is a scandal.
RationalEmotive (December 31, 1969 at 4:59 pm)
"What you spend years building, someone could destroy overnight. Build anyway."
What I am saying is that with less power comes less responsibility and I feel not inclined to make the genocide in Sudan my number one priority in life. If you do: Great! There have always been a small minority of people helping out with the least fortunate and dedicated their lives to the task (if Mother Teresa was one of them is in light of Hitchen's critique doubtful).
Now, as I am not explicitly helping out
RationalEmotive (December 31, 1969 at 4:59 pm)
2 these guys and gals produce problems that require ,if we want to reverse them, much more effort from everyone of us since we are not given (and in many cases are humble enough not wanting) so much power. Let's say for every hour Bush spends in the office it takes me 20 years to take as much influence he has within an hour. (the number is relatively arbitrary but the scale is correct)
Now I am not saying that it is difficult is reason to give up. I am with Mother Teresa on this who said:
zionofwestern (December 31, 1969 at 4:59 pm)
True - Astronomy doesn't cause nor solve urgent problems. That's my point - it doesn't do anything that can move mankind right now. You're not understanding my point. Let me try to give you a hypothetical "what if." If some where like, I don't know, Dafur was given money by the UN to establish a space exploration program, you think they would utilize the money to fund it?
Do you see what I am trying to tell you? We need to solve problems we have now before we create new ones...
RationalEmotive (December 31, 1969 at 4:59 pm)
I am too sorry to have to point out your ignorance but I am trying to enlighten:
Have you considered the possibility that space faring which begins with sending robots into space might become one day very important when we manage to create problems here that we cannot solve any longer?
watch?v=p86BPM1GV8M Dr Sagan knew that we take our stand here on earth but was a big supporter of the space program nevertheless or maybe because of it. The sooner we begin exploring the better. |
