fenix9885 (December 31, 1969 at 4:59 pm)

Actually sodomy, adultery, and fornication are not crimes. You are a dying breed dude, nobody wants your wacky views. People are becoming more moderate, not conservative. Just look at the Obama election. Liberals will make eating a crime? When you say such crazy ass stuff, nobody takes you serious. Ask glenn beck

BornHomophobictOO (December 31, 1969 at 4:59 pm)

Those are the sins listed by the pagans the seven deadly ones. Not in the bible. How do they affect me. The mind set of someone who will do such things shows a level that most will not cross. You see, stealing you can do when no one else is around. But the others are ones you have to do with someone which makes them more heneous. Once you are willing to cross the moral boundry of having sex with someone of the same sex what other boundry is too far that you wouldn't cross. NONE...

gergenheimer (December 31, 1969 at 4:59 pm)

OVER-eating, which is what I was describing, is also called GLUTTONY - one of your seven deadly sins. How do sodomy, adultery, and fornication affect you if you aren't the one doing it? You are describing things as evil only because you don't like the thought of other people doing them, not because they actually cause you harm. You correctly identified stealing as a crime because it actually causes me harm. Inner cities are full of rules, regulations and busy-bodies like you, not Libertarians.

BornHomophobictOO (December 31, 1969 at 4:59 pm)

Eating is not a crime but liberals will make it one soon. Sodomy is a crime, adultrey is a crime, fornication is a crime. Stealing is a crime. Thus it is my responsiblity to keep these things from affecting my family. The only way to do that is to enforce the laws that make them illegal. YOU would deny that they have any effect so you would do nothing and evil would permeate your neighborhood until you were afraid to go out. Your way has been tried and it fails ask the inner city.

gergenheimer (December 31, 1969 at 4:59 pm)

So, in your black-and-white world, human beings are either actively stopping others from engaging in behavior they don't like or they are actively encouraging it? All-or-nothing. So, if I see a 450 pound man eating 3 Big Macs, my options, according to you, are to knock the food out of his hand and follow him around until he loses 200 lbs. or; buy him 3 more Big Macs and force him to eat them on the spot. The idea that it's not your job to run his life never occurs to you, does it?

BornHomophobictOO (December 31, 1969 at 4:59 pm)

So consenting to something is the standard huh.. So if people consent to conspire that is okay. If a women wants to charge men to have sex with her that is her right under the non aggression principle. You are a dope, a evil dope, It promotes these things because you say you don't have the right to stop them. Thus you promote them simple enough.

gergenheimer (December 31, 1969 at 4:59 pm)

How does the non-aggression principle PROMOTE abortion, sodomy, and prostitution? Answer - it does no such thing. You may be surprised to learn (since you are just a sheep in flock of sheep) that I am pro-life, because I believe abortion violates the non-aggression principle. As for the consenting sexual behaviors of adult human beings, no arbitrary set of subjective values gives me the right to tell other people what to do with their bodies. It's none of my (or your) business.

BornHomophobictOO (December 31, 1969 at 4:59 pm)

@gergenheimer The none aggression principle isn't the golden rule you fool, Hey I made a rhyme.. Golden rule is the summing up of the last five of the ten commandment. You know Thou shalt not murder Thou shalt not steal Thou shalt not commit adultery Though shalt not commit purgery Thoudh shalt not covet. All of these things except coveting was enforcable as CRIMINAL behavior and you want to make all of them legal. Abortion, Sodomy, prostitution, and you think that is golden rule?

gergenheimer (December 31, 1969 at 4:59 pm)

You have gone to great lengths attempting to trash the central principle of Libertarianism - the non-aggression principle. Are you so blinded by dogma that you fail to realize that the non-aggression principle is really just a restatement of one of the principles of your faith - the Golden Rule - do unto others as you would have done unto you? Why then such hostility toward the non-aggression principle?

gergenheimer (December 31, 1969 at 4:59 pm)

God is a man-made idea. It comes as no surprise that someone whose moral principles are based on "might makes right" believes in an invisible man in the sky who watches our every move and smites us if we are "naughty." By what authority does God hand out the rules? Sorry, ancient superstition and barking at the moon doesn't cut it as a system of ethics for rational beings.